Six degrees of samples

[pomDeter]

Let's play a game...I've not thought this through tho.


Like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, link a couple of tunes together by the samples they used in 6 steps or fewer, whoever links them together gets to suggest the next one. Links can be tenuous but no mashups, that's cheating.

These places should help:
http://www.whosampled.com/
http://www.the-breaks.com/
http://samplesvshiphop.com/

I'll start...

Link The Beastie Boys - Hey Ladies to The Prodigy - Hyperspeed (G-Force Part 2)

[CaptainNoNoMatic]

Beastie Boys - Hey Ladies samples Fab 5 Freddy - Change The Beat

(as does Coldcut's remix of Eric B and Rakim's Paid In Full)

Which was sampled also by Mantronix on Needle to the Groove

and another Mantronix track Bassline was sampled by Prodigy on Hyperspeed.

Got it in 2 (well 3 if you count the Paid in Full detour)

I'm assuming linking via the artist (other tracks they've done) is tenuous but OK? Otherwise some of these might be impossible/very restricted to very sample friendly artists....

[CaptainNoNoMatic]

OK let's make it harder:



Esquivel - Latin-Esque (actually wanted to choose one that hadn't been sampled but hey) which keeps the Beasties link

to



Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit (doesn't contain samples but has been well sampled...)

I can think of a nonsampled link but can you come up with a sampled linkage?

[pomDeter]

I'm assuming linking via the artist (other tracks they've done) is tenuous but OK? Otherwise some of these might be impossible/very restricted to very sample friendly artists....

I reckon so, keep it fun and not too difficult.

[pomDeter]

Right, how's this?



is sampled on



who also made



which samples



is sampled on



which samples

[pomDeter]

I wonder how many times we'll see funky drummer, amen. think and apache.

Here's another couple, get from PWEI - Def Con One



to KC Flightt - Planet E

[CaptainNoNoMatic]

Good one...I was thinking people would go via Bjork - there's a QOTSA link there > Foos > Nirvana but not samplage

[CaptainNoNoMatic]

EASY!

PWEI sampled the Twiglet Theme in Def Con One (in at least one of the versions anyway)



which was also sampled (?) by UTFO in Bite It:



No I'm not going to go Change the Beat again...but UTFO did another song called Beats and Pieces that samples Billy Squire's Big Beat



Which was also sampled by Grandmaster Flash for Magic Carpet Ride



Grandmaster Flash also sampled Tom Tom Club:



Who are members of Talking Heads as sampled by KC Flightt.

Another one is PWEI > Twilight Zone > UTFO > Fab 5 Freddy > Grandmaster Flash > Tom Tom > KC too (via Blondie also)

[CaptainNoNoMatic]

Oh I have one quicker than that...2-3 steps?

PWEI samples the Osmonds:



Which is also sampled in Bassheads - Is there anybody out there?



Which samples Once in Lifetime as does:

KC Flightt

[IanFondue]

I'm assuming linking via the artist (other tracks they've done) is tenuous but OK? Otherwise some of these might be impossible/very restricted to very sample friendly artists....

I was wondering about this - cos you could argruably use Prodigy present Dirtchamber which features Beastie Boys on it and do it in one - depends if it has to be sample links or not ...

Might be me being literal, but which links are allowed and which not?

[pomDeter]

I think we can be pretty flexible with what's allowed, try and link via samples where possible or other tracks the sampling/sampled artists made.

The Dirtchamber, I'd say that'd be ok but I'd make it 3 steps..i.e
Beastie Boys - Hey Ladies>>Beastie Boys - It's The New Style>>Prodigy - Dirtchamber>>Prodigy - Hyperspeed

I suppose things like the Fools Gold drums would be ok too, it's not a sample but might as well be.
Do we allow cover versions then?

Elton John's mum babysitting for Slash, altho interesting, would be chancing it tho.

The no mashups is mainly to stop folk digging out their old tracks or running off to make a new "Smells Like Latin-esque" boot, although that could make for curious combos.


I dunno, let's tweak the rules as we go.

[pomDeter]

Oh I have one quicker than that...2-3 steps?

PWEI samples the Osmonds:



Which is also sampled in Bassheads - Is there anybody out there?



Which samples Once in Lifetime as does:

KC Flightt

That's the route I was thinking, well done for finding a couple of others.
Your turn again then.

[CaptainNoNoMatic]

OK let's test your music knowledge - there are easy and less easy paths here:

Adventures of Robinson Crusoe Theme (1964)



to



Bonus points from me for going the hard route...

[pomDeter]

Had a couple of trys at this and could only get there in about 8 steps, I'll have another look over the weekend. I think the key here is Trevor Horn, or maybe I've been chasing a dead end.

[IanFondue]

Suspect this is the easy route ...

Art of Noise - did Robinson Crusoe theme version
Prodigy - Firestarter samples Art of Noise - (Close) to the edit
Prodigy sampled Ennio Morricone - either The big gundown or release yo delf (Remix of Method Man)
187 Lockdown sampled Ennio Morricone for Gunman

[dunproofin]

OK ....

The Art Of Noise - Crusoe (LFO Remix) from "The Fon Remixes"


to ..... LFO remix of Dave Clarke's "What Was Her Name"


Dave Clarke did a song called "Southside" (which I used to hammer when I was DJing many years ago)


as did 187 Lockdown


which brings us to 187 Lockdown's Gunman

ummmm .... but that's more a remix route.

[dunproofin]

Or if you want to include Trevor Horn ...

Trevor Horn produced / was in The Art Of Noise, but he also produced the Pet Shop Boy's "Left To My Own Devices"


Neil Tennant (Pet Shop Boys) appeared with Neil Hannon (Divine Comedy) on Robbie Williams "No Regrets"


187 Lockdown remixed Robbie Williams' "South Of The Border"


which brings us back to 187 Lockdown's "Gunman"

[CaptainNoNoMatic]

Suspect this is the easy route ...

Art of Noise - did Robinson Crusoe theme version
Prodigy - Firestarter samples Art of Noise - (Close) to the edit
Prodigy sampled Ennio Morricone - either The big gundown or release yo delf (Remix of Method Man)
187 Lockdown sampled Ennio Morricone for Gunman

Closest - the route I was thinking of was via Gnarls Barkley; the co-writer of the Crusoe theme is Gian-Piero Reverberi > sampled in Crazy. He worked on spaghetti westerns as did Morricone (tenous link - thought there was a direct one). But yeah - Morricone > 187. Hard route was to get a connection between Morricone / Reverberi rather than just go Gnarls > Coldcut/Bomb the Bass/drum sample route > 187. Or you could have gone via Rondò Veneziano.

Or Crusoe > Gnarls who sample Françoise Hardy who covered Morricone > 187.

Ian's turn!

[IanFondue]

OK, think this is a 6 degree-er, although i think there may be a quicker route ...

a ha - Living a boy's adventure tale



to Music Machine - Come on in

[CaptainNoNoMatic]

Damn I can do it in 7.